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Eric Wolf
I just got Nextlight Gigabit Internet installed. Ookla Speedtest looks like it may be throttling to ~225Mb/s. What do you guys recommend for testing throughput?

-Eric

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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

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Your ISP should provide you a local speedtest node for any hope of
anything remotely resembling an "accurate" result of the speed from your
hand-off to your ISP.

We use speedtest.epbfi.com around here.  (Needs Java, at least I have to
give it permission to run, unlike Flash).

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On 10/1/2015 1:18 PM, Eric Wolf wrote:

> I just got Nextlight Gigabit Internet installed. Ookla Speedtest looks
> like it may be throttling to ~225Mb/s. What do you guys recommend for
> testing throughput?
>
> -Eric
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Eric Wolf
It turns out that it's not Ookla... It's my router. I plugged my laptop directly into the ONT and got this:



Compared to my desktop through the router:


Any recommendations on routers?

I have a Netgear R6200

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Your ISP should provide you a local speedtest node for any hope of
anything remotely resembling an "accurate" result of the speed from your
hand-off to your ISP.

We use speedtest.epbfi.com around here.  (Needs Java, at least I have to
give it permission to run, unlike Flash).

- --dtb

On 10/1/2015 1:18 PM, Eric Wolf wrote:
> I just got Nextlight Gigabit Internet installed. Ookla Speedtest looks
> like it may be throttling to ~225Mb/s. What do you guys recommend for
> testing throughput?
>
> -Eric
>
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Lynn Dixon
Eric,
I have found that not alot of consumer grade routers can handle 1gig across a WAN.  I ended up rolling my own using pfSense and a 1U rack mount appliance.  The appliance has Intel NICs (only go with Intel nics) and has an i5 processor and 4 gig of ram.





On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Eric Wolf <[hidden email]> wrote:
It turns out that it's not Ookla... It's my router. I plugged my laptop directly into the ONT and got this:



Compared to my desktop through the router:


Any recommendations on routers?

I have a Netgear R6200

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Your ISP should provide you a local speedtest node for any hope of
anything remotely resembling an "accurate" result of the speed from your
hand-off to your ISP.

We use speedtest.epbfi.com around here.  (Needs Java, at least I have to
give it permission to run, unlike Flash).

- --dtb

On 10/1/2015 1:18 PM, Eric Wolf wrote:
> I just got Nextlight Gigabit Internet installed. Ookla Speedtest looks
> like it may be throttling to ~225Mb/s. What do you guys recommend for
> testing throughput?
>
> -Eric
>
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> Eric B. Wolf                           <a href="tel:720-334-7734" value="+17203347734" target="_blank">720-334-7734
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

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Eric


The beast below will do it and do it pretty inexpensively. I have Gbit customers on it testing out to over 900 Mbps with our local EPB Gbit service. In fact I think EPB uses it on the customer side for their hosted phone solution.

Ubiquity has been discussed quite a bit on Chugalug if you check the archives. Keep in mind, this is just a router. You'll need a wireless AP and likely a switch as well.

https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/


Best
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Eric Wolf
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Googling (https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/3cgoda/best_router_right_now_for_gigabit_internet/) turned up the NetGear Nighthawk AC1900, the ASUS RT-N66U (Dark Night). But the go to solution appears to be the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite... I just ordered the 5-Port EdgeRouter POE. I'll leave the NetGear behind it for a WiFi AP.

-Eric

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Lynn Dixon <[hidden email]> wrote:
Eric,
I have found that not alot of consumer grade routers can handle 1gig across a WAN.  I ended up rolling my own using pfSense and a 1U rack mount appliance.  The appliance has Intel NICs (only go with Intel nics) and has an i5 processor and 4 gig of ram.





On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Eric Wolf <[hidden email]> wrote:
It turns out that it's not Ookla... It's my router. I plugged my laptop directly into the ONT and got this:



Compared to my desktop through the router:


Any recommendations on routers?

I have a Netgear R6200

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Your ISP should provide you a local speedtest node for any hope of
anything remotely resembling an "accurate" result of the speed from your
hand-off to your ISP.

We use speedtest.epbfi.com around here.  (Needs Java, at least I have to
give it permission to run, unlike Flash).

- --dtb

On 10/1/2015 1:18 PM, Eric Wolf wrote:
> I just got Nextlight Gigabit Internet installed. Ookla Speedtest looks
> like it may be throttling to ~225Mb/s. What do you guys recommend for
> testing throughput?
>
> -Eric
>
> -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Lynn Dixon
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How versatile is the management console/web on the Edgerouters?  It's really hard for me to give up the power behind pfSense.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, mdquerng <[hidden email]> wrote:
Eric


The beast below will do it and do it pretty inexpensively. I have Gbit
customers on it testing out to over 900 Mbps with our local EPB Gbit
service. In fact I think EPB uses it on the customer side for their hosted
phone solution.

Ubiquity has been discussed quite a bit on Chugalug if you check the
archives. Keep in mind, this is just a router. You'll need a wireless AP and
likely a switch as well.

https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/


Best
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Eric Wolf
Mark: I just ordered the 5-port/POE version of the ERL.

Lynn: The biggest complaint about the EdgeRouters is that they are too complex for the average consumer. Which is a plus for me...

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Lynn Dixon <[hidden email]> wrote:
How versatile is the management console/web on the Edgerouters?  It's really hard for me to give up the power behind pfSense.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, mdquerng <[hidden email]> wrote:
Eric


The beast below will do it and do it pretty inexpensively. I have Gbit
customers on it testing out to over 900 Mbps with our local EPB Gbit
service. In fact I think EPB uses it on the customer side for their hosted
phone solution.

Ubiquity has been discussed quite a bit on Chugalug if you check the
archives. Keep in mind, this is just a router. You'll need a wireless AP and
likely a switch as well.

https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/


Best
Mark




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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

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Management portal is pretty powerful but if you want to setup openVPN, squid, or modify DNSMasq settings you will need to use SSH. Everything that can be done via the GUI can be done via the command line. Look for a recent Vyatta command line reference.
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> On Oct 1, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Lynn Dixon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> How versatile is the management console/web on the Edgerouters?  It's really hard for me to give up the power behind pfSense.
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, mdquerng <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Eric
>
>
> The beast below will do it and do it pretty inexpensively. I have Gbit
> customers on it testing out to over 900 Mbps with our local EPB Gbit
> service. In fact I think EPB uses it on the customer side for their hosted
> phone solution.
>
> Ubiquity has been discussed quite a bit on Chugalug if you check the
> archives. Keep in mind, this is just a router. You'll need a wireless AP and
> likely a switch as well.
>
> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/
>
>
> Best
> Mark
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Edgerouter Lite is great. $100 and it blows most "consumer grade" routers out of the water. You will need to buy a wireless AP, though. This is literally just a router, but a very good one.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Eric Wolf <[hidden email]> wrote:
It turns out that it's not Ookla... It's my router. I plugged my laptop directly into the ONT and got this:



Compared to my desktop through the router:


Any recommendations on routers?

I have a Netgear R6200

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Your ISP should provide you a local speedtest node for any hope of
anything remotely resembling an "accurate" result of the speed from your
hand-off to your ISP.

We use speedtest.epbfi.com around here.  (Needs Java, at least I have to
give it permission to run, unlike Flash).

- --dtb

On 10/1/2015 1:18 PM, Eric Wolf wrote:
> I just got Nextlight Gigabit Internet installed. Ookla Speedtest looks
> like it may be throttling to ~225Mb/s. What do you guys recommend for
> testing throughput?
>
> -Eric
>
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

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Would this be worth getting for someone who's stuck on 12 Mbit DSL or is my standard Gigabit router good enough?
 
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015, at 05:19 PM, Sean Brewer wrote:
Edgerouter Lite is great. $100 and it blows most "consumer grade" routers out of the water. You will need to buy a wireless AP, though. This is literally just a router, but a very good one.
 
 

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Lynn Dixon

Eric,
Would you mind giving us a good honest review after you test drive that edgerouter? 

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Would this be worth getting for someone who's stuck on 12 Mbit DSL or is my standard Gigabit router good enough?
 
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Edgerouter Lite is great. $100 and it blows most "consumer grade" routers out of the water. You will need to buy a wireless AP, though. This is literally just a router, but a very good one.
 
 

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Definitely! I have comcast @ 20Mbit down and 5Mbit up. Comcast throttles you if you come within a certain threshold of your max bandwidth, which is a huge pain. Edgerouter Lite's QoS has been really handy and helping me solve that issue from my side.

Edgerouter Lite with the newest firmware has this QoS feature called "smart queues", which is FQ-CoDel (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-01#page-4) that's configurable from the web interface.

Basically, it'll intelligently manage your up/down traffic. 

For instance, if you have a computer on your network downloading a really big file, FQ-CoDel won't let that stream block other traffic (e.g. VoIP, another computer playing a game or something, etc.). It'll throttle that download depending on whatever else is trying to use the network. Whereas, if you had no QoS at all period (FIFO, basically), that big download would hog your network until it is finished.

So, with 12Mbit service, it could help you squeeze the most out of your bandwidth.

However, those with service >= 100Mbit or so, QoS on Edgerouter Lite bypasses hardware offload. That means you won't be getting the bandwidth you paid for. I've seen folks test this themselves and get a max ranging from 100Mbit to 200Mbit. So, if you have 100Mbit or greater service, don't use QoS on the Edgerouter Lite. 




 

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Would this be worth getting for someone who's stuck on 12 Mbit DSL or is my standard Gigabit router good enough?
 
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Edgerouter Lite is great. $100 and it blows most "consumer grade" routers out of the water. You will need to buy a wireless AP, though. This is literally just a router, but a very good one.
 
 

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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

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I've been thinking of getting an Edgerouter Lite and an AP just to kind of play around with, but I live in a smallish apartment so I feel like it'd kinda be a waste. What APs would you recommend? I know Ubiquiti has praise from a lot of people. I just feel like the top grade consumer AP routers don't cut it (Asus AC2400).

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Definitely! I have comcast @ 20Mbit down and 5Mbit up. Comcast throttles you if you come within a certain threshold of your max bandwidth, which is a huge pain. Edgerouter Lite's QoS has been really handy and helping me solve that issue from my side.

Edgerouter Lite with the newest firmware has this QoS feature called "smart queues", which is FQ-CoDel (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-01#page-4) that's configurable from the web interface.

Basically, it'll intelligently manage your up/down traffic. 

For instance, if you have a computer on your network downloading a really big file, FQ-CoDel won't let that stream block other traffic (e.g. VoIP, another computer playing a game or something, etc.). It'll throttle that download depending on whatever else is trying to use the network. Whereas, if you had no QoS at all period (FIFO, basically), that big download would hog your network until it is finished.

So, with 12Mbit service, it could help you squeeze the most out of your bandwidth.

However, those with service >= 100Mbit or so, QoS on Edgerouter Lite bypasses hardware offload. That means you won't be getting the bandwidth you paid for. I've seen folks test this themselves and get a max ranging from 100Mbit to 200Mbit. So, if you have 100Mbit or greater service, don't use QoS on the Edgerouter Lite. 




 

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Would this be worth getting for someone who's stuck on 12 Mbit DSL or is my standard Gigabit router good enough?
 
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Edgerouter Lite is great. $100 and it blows most "consumer grade" routers out of the water. You will need to buy a wireless AP, though. This is literally just a router, but a very good one.
 
 

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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Sean Brewer
I'm in an apartment with a UniFi AP Long-Range. It's great :-)

Ubiquiti is coming out with new gear towards the end of December, particularly much cheaper AC APs. I might wait before getting a Unifi AP.


On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:17 PM, John Dills <[hidden email]> wrote:
I've been thinking of getting an Edgerouter Lite and an AP just to kind of play around with, but I live in a smallish apartment so I feel like it'd kinda be a waste. What APs would you recommend? I know Ubiquiti has praise from a lot of people. I just feel like the top grade consumer AP routers don't cut it (Asus AC2400).

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Sean Brewer <[hidden email]> wrote:
Definitely! I have comcast @ 20Mbit down and 5Mbit up. Comcast throttles you if you come within a certain threshold of your max bandwidth, which is a huge pain. Edgerouter Lite's QoS has been really handy and helping me solve that issue from my side.

Edgerouter Lite with the newest firmware has this QoS feature called "smart queues", which is FQ-CoDel (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-01#page-4) that's configurable from the web interface.

Basically, it'll intelligently manage your up/down traffic. 

For instance, if you have a computer on your network downloading a really big file, FQ-CoDel won't let that stream block other traffic (e.g. VoIP, another computer playing a game or something, etc.). It'll throttle that download depending on whatever else is trying to use the network. Whereas, if you had no QoS at all period (FIFO, basically), that big download would hog your network until it is finished.

So, with 12Mbit service, it could help you squeeze the most out of your bandwidth.

However, those with service >= 100Mbit or so, QoS on Edgerouter Lite bypasses hardware offload. That means you won't be getting the bandwidth you paid for. I've seen folks test this themselves and get a max ranging from 100Mbit to 200Mbit. So, if you have 100Mbit or greater service, don't use QoS on the Edgerouter Lite. 




 

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Would this be worth getting for someone who's stuck on 12 Mbit DSL or is my standard Gigabit router good enough?
 
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Edgerouter Lite is great. $100 and it blows most "consumer grade" routers out of the water. You will need to buy a wireless AP, though. This is literally just a router, but a very good one.
 
 

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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

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On 10/1/2015 9:49 PM, Sean Brewer wrote:
> I'm in an apartment with a UniFi AP Long-Range. It's great :-)
>
> Ubiquiti is coming out with new gear towards the end of December,
> particularly /much/ cheaper AC APs. I might wait before getting a
> Unifi AP.

AC-LR are already shipping :)

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Sean Brewer

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 10/1/2015 9:49 PM, Sean Brewer wrote:
> I'm in an apartment with a UniFi AP Long-Range. It's great :-)
>
> Ubiquiti is coming out with new gear towards the end of December,
> particularly /much/ cheaper AC APs. I might wait before getting a
> Unifi AP.

AC-LR are already shipping :)

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

John Dills
So, $270 vs $200... How would you rate network performance?

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 10/1/2015 9:49 PM, Sean Brewer wrote:
> I'm in an apartment with a UniFi AP Long-Range. It's great :-)
>
> Ubiquiti is coming out with new gear towards the end of December,
> particularly /much/ cheaper AC APs. I might wait before getting a
> Unifi AP.

AC-LR are already shipping :)

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

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On 10/2/2015 11:58 AM, John Dills wrote:
> So, $270 vs $200... How would you rate network performance?

More like $100 vs $270, and if you buy in bulk w/o the PoE injectors you
can get that into the high $80 range per AC-LR unit.

LR states 600ft range vs 400ft range of UAP-AC.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] Bandwidth speedtest for Gigabit Internet

Lynn Dixon
Oddly enough... the LR version has a slower max speed than the Pro:




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On 10/2/2015 11:58 AM, John Dills wrote:
> So, $270 vs $200... How would you rate network performance?

More like $100 vs $270, and if you buy in bulk w/o the PoE injectors you
can get that into the high $80 range per AC-LR unit.

LR states 600ft range vs 400ft range of UAP-AC.

Regards,

dtb
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