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[Chugalug] Bitcoins

Mitch Tuck
Hello all,

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

Thanks
Mitch

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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

William D. Roush

I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just going to an exchange?

 

 

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From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck
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Subject: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

Hello all,

 

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

 

Thanks

Mitch


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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Mitch Tuck
That was my thought, but they think they can get quicker from local seller.

Sent from my android device.

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From: "William D. Roush" <[hidden email]>
To: "Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:43
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just going to an exchange?

 

 

William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/

Office: 423.933.2114 | Cell: 423.463.0592 | Email: [hidden email]

 

 

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

Hello all,

 

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

 

Thanks

Mitch


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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Aaron welch
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1. Hard limits on currency exchange
2. Having to register the transaction with the Feds to comply with laws
3. Waiting period for funds to clear in both directions
4. Fees and more fees

-AW

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush <[hidden email]> wrote:

I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just going to an exchange?

 

 

William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/

Office: <a href="tel:(423)%20933-2114" value="+14239332114" target="_blank">423.933.2114 | Cell: <a href="tel:(423)%20463-0592" value="+14234630592" target="_blank">423.463.0592 | Email: [hidden email]

 

 

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

Hello all,

 

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

 

Thanks

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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Aaron welch
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Just so they realize that no one in their right mind who is holding on to it will sell it for the market rate. You will be REALLY lucky to find someone willing to sell it in person for cash at a 10% premium. At this point selling your BTC would be like taking cash out of your 401K. I made the mistake of selling my last BTC last summer to someone on the list and it is now worth 10x what it was back then.

-Aaron

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That was my thought, but they think they can get quicker from local seller.

Sent from my android device.


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From: "William D. Roush" <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just going to an exchange?

 

 

William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/

Office: <a href="tel:(423)%20933-2114" value="+14239332114" target="_blank">423.933.2114 | Cell: <a href="tel:(423)%20463-0592" value="+14234630592" target="_blank">423.463.0592 | Email: [hidden email]

 

 

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

Hello all,

 

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

 

Thanks

Mitch


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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

William D. Roush
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  1. What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them.
  2. So… tax evasion? 😝
  3. Would that be slower than trying to find someone local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still climbing?
  4. $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could be wrong), not that bad really.

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Aaron welch
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

1. Hard limits on currency exchange

2. Having to register the transaction with the Feds to comply with laws

3. Waiting period for funds to clear in both directions

4. Fees and more fees

 

-AW

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush <[hidden email]> wrote:

I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just going to an exchange?

 

 

William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/

Office: <a href="tel:(423)%20933-2114" target="_blank">423.933.2114 | Cell: <a href="tel:(423)%20463-0592" target="_blank"> 423.463.0592 | Email: [hidden email]

 

 

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

Hello all,

 

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

 

Thanks

Mitch


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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Aaron welch
To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start the process of buying it from the exchange now though.

-Aaron

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush <[hidden email]> wrote:
  1. What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them.
  2. So… tax evasion? 😝
  3. Would that be slower than trying to find someone local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still climbing?
  4. $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could be wrong), not that bad really.

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Aaron welch
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

1. Hard limits on currency exchange

2. Having to register the transaction with the Feds to comply with laws

3. Waiting period for funds to clear in both directions

4. Fees and more fees

 

-AW

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush <[hidden email]> wrote:

I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just going to an exchange?

 

 

William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/

Office: <a href="tel:(423)%20933-2114" target="_blank">423.933.2114 | Cell: <a href="tel:(423)%20463-0592" target="_blank"> 423.463.0592 | Email: [hidden email]

 

 

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

Hello all,

 

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

 

Thanks

Mitch


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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

William D. Roush

Ah, today I learned! Makes sense. Thanks. :D

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Aaron welch
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:57 AM
To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start the process of buying it from the exchange now though.

 

-Aaron

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush <[hidden email]> wrote:

  1. What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them.
  2. So… tax evasion? 😝
  3. Would that be slower than trying to find someone local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still climbing?
  4. $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could be wrong), not that bad really.

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Aaron welch
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

1. Hard limits on currency exchange

2. Having to register the transaction with the Feds to comply with laws

3. Waiting period for funds to clear in both directions

4. Fees and more fees

 

-AW

 

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush <[hidden email]> wrote:

I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just going to an exchange?

 

 

William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/

Office: <a href="tel:(423)%20933-2114" target="_blank">423.933.2114 | Cell: <a href="tel:(423)%20463-0592" target="_blank"> 423.463.0592 | Email: [hidden email]

 

 

 

From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

 

Hello all,

 

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

 

Thanks

Mitch


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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

John Alcock
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I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.

 John

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello all,

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

Thanks
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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Mitch Tuck
Already made them aware.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, John Alcock <[hidden email]> wrote:
I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.

 John

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello all,

I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple sellers.

Thanks
Mitch

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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Joel Swanson-2
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Hello,

Don't know if you got the help you need or not. Bob Biles,
[hidden email], is local to Chattanooga and host of the monthly
bitcoin meetup. When I was last in Chattanooga they were meeting at
the downtown public library. Perhaps you could reach out to him.

How much does the company need to buy? They (or you) could download
the peer-to-peer bisq software (http://bisq.io/). Its a decentralized
peer-to-peer bitcoin exchange built on Tor for better privacy, no
accounts required, no centralized registration, no company behind it.

The way it works is you put your bank account type in (if you're
bank's part of Zelle pay network, it should work), and submit a small
amount of bitcoin (0.03 BTC typically, it prevents spam transactions)
as a security deposity, which gets put in a three-way multisignature
account until the seller confirms receiving the USD, at which point
the BTC is released to the buyer and both parties receive their
security deposit back. The slowest part of the transaction is usually
waiting for the USD to clear. One other catch is that each bitcoin
transaction is limited to buying or selling 0.5 BTC maximum, to make
the whole system less likely a target for scams.

I've used bisq (formerly named bitsquare) since May 2016 as our
primary way to move our salary from the US where we're paid to France
where we work with a French denomination as missionaries.

Joel


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> Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:57 AM To: Cha. Unix
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> To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and
> approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer
> fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will
> end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start
> the process of buying it from the exchange now though.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
>
> 1.  What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few
> exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them. 2.  So… tax
> evasion? 😝 3.  Would that be slower than trying to find someone
> local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still
> climbing? 4.  $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could
> be wrong), not that bad really.
>
> From: Chugalug
> [mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:chugalug-bounces@chugalug
.org>]

> On Behalf Of Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
> To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> 1. Hard limits on currency exchange 2. Having to register the
> transaction with the Feds to comply with laws 3. Waiting period for
> funds to clear in both directions 4. Fees and more fees
>
> -AW
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote: I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just
> going to an exchange?
>
>
> William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/ Office:
> 423.933.2114<tel:(423)%20933-2114> | Cell:
> 423.463.0592<tel:(423)%20463-0592> | Email:
> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
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> On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
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> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins
> for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they
> are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you
> have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple
> sellers.
>
> Thanks Mitch
>
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> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
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> John
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>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted,
>> and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know
>> if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with
>> multiple sellers.
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>> Thanks Mitch
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> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, John Alcock <[hidden email]>
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>> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
>> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was
>>> deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please
>>> let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are
>>> willing to deal with multiple sellers.
>>>
>>> Thanks Mitch
>>>
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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Stephen Kraus
Unfortunately, it'd be better to advise your client to not pay the ransom and cut their losses.

Its hard to day to their face, but this is why you setup rotational backups and always keep good copies, even for personal machines.

It is not good practice to pay out a ransom for malware. There are zero guarentees that the ransom eill be honored or result in an even more devestating financial loss.

Stephen

On Aug 17, 2017 1:31 PM, "Joel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hello,

Don't know if you got the help you need or not. Bob Biles,
[hidden email], is local to Chattanooga and host of the monthly
bitcoin meetup. When I was last in Chattanooga they were meeting at
the downtown public library. Perhaps you could reach out to him.

How much does the company need to buy? They (or you) could download
the peer-to-peer bisq software (http://bisq.io/). Its a decentralized
peer-to-peer bitcoin exchange built on Tor for better privacy, no
accounts required, no centralized registration, no company behind it.

The way it works is you put your bank account type in (if you're
bank's part of Zelle pay network, it should work), and submit a small
amount of bitcoin (0.03 BTC typically, it prevents spam transactions)
as a security deposity, which gets put in a three-way multisignature
account until the seller confirms receiving the USD, at which point
the BTC is released to the buyer and both parties receive their
security deposit back. The slowest part of the transaction is usually
waiting for the USD to clear. One other catch is that each bitcoin
transaction is limited to buying or selling 0.5 BTC maximum, to make
the whole system less likely a target for scams.

I've used bisq (formerly named bitsquare) since May 2016 as our
primary way to move our salary from the US where we're paid to France
where we work with a French denomination as missionaries.

Joel


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> Ah, today I learned! Makes sense. Thanks. :D
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> From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:57 AM To: Cha. Unix
> Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
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> To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and
> approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer
> fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will
> end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start
> the process of buying it from the exchange now though.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
>
> 1.  What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few
> exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them. 2.  So… tax
> evasion? 😝 3.  Would that be slower than trying to find someone
> local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still
> climbing? 4.  $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could
> be wrong), not that bad really.
>
> From: Chugalug
> [mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]
.org>]
> On Behalf Of Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
> To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> 1. Hard limits on currency exchange 2. Having to register the
> transaction with the Feds to comply with laws 3. Waiting period for
> funds to clear in both directions 4. Fees and more fees
>
> -AW
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote: I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just
> going to an exchange?
>
>
> William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/ Office:
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> From: Chugalug
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> On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins
> for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they
> are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you
> have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple
> sellers.
>
> Thanks Mitch
>
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> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
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> John
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> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted,
>> and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know
>> if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with
>> multiple sellers.
>>
>> Thanks Mitch
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> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, John Alcock <[hidden email]>
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>> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
>> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was
>>> deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please
>>> let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are
>>> willing to deal with multiple sellers.
>>>
>>> Thanks Mitch
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________ Chugalug
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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Mitch Tuck
Oh, I totally agree.  Honestly this is something I griped about the whole time I was there.  I already advised they may not get their data back.  But they are stuck at the moment.  They are completely down it had all of their databases and everything.


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Unfortunately, it'd be better to advise your client to not pay the ransom and cut their losses.

Its hard to day to their face, but this is why you setup rotational backups and always keep good copies, even for personal machines.

It is not good practice to pay out a ransom for malware. There are zero guarentees that the ransom eill be honored or result in an even more devestating financial loss.

Stephen

On Aug 17, 2017 1:31 PM, "Joel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hello,

Don't know if you got the help you need or not. Bob Biles,
[hidden email], is local to Chattanooga and host of the monthly
bitcoin meetup. When I was last in Chattanooga they were meeting at
the downtown public library. Perhaps you could reach out to him.

How much does the company need to buy? They (or you) could download
the peer-to-peer bisq software (http://bisq.io/). Its a decentralized
peer-to-peer bitcoin exchange built on Tor for better privacy, no
accounts required, no centralized registration, no company behind it.

The way it works is you put your bank account type in (if you're
bank's part of Zelle pay network, it should work), and submit a small
amount of bitcoin (0.03 BTC typically, it prevents spam transactions)
as a security deposity, which gets put in a three-way multisignature
account until the seller confirms receiving the USD, at which point
the BTC is released to the buyer and both parties receive their
security deposit back. The slowest part of the transaction is usually
waiting for the USD to clear. One other catch is that each bitcoin
transaction is limited to buying or selling 0.5 BTC maximum, to make
the whole system less likely a target for scams.

I've used bisq (formerly named bitsquare) since May 2016 as our
primary way to move our salary from the US where we're paid to France
where we work with a French denomination as missionaries.

Joel


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> Ah, today I learned! Makes sense. Thanks. :D
>
> From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:57 AM To: Cha. Unix
> Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and
> approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer
> fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will
> end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start
> the process of buying it from the exchange now though.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
>
> 1.  What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few
> exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them. 2.  So… tax
> evasion? 😝 3.  Would that be slower than trying to find someone
> local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still
> climbing? 4.  $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could
> be wrong), not that bad really.
>
> From: Chugalug
> [mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]
.org>]
> On Behalf Of Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
> To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> 1. Hard limits on currency exchange 2. Having to register the
> transaction with the Feds to comply with laws 3. Waiting period for
> funds to clear in both directions 4. Fees and more fees
>
> -AW
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote: I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just
> going to an exchange?
>
>
> William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/ Office:
> <a href="tel:423.933.2114" value="+14239332114" target="_blank">423.933.2114<tel:(423)%20933-2114> | Cell:
> <a href="tel:423.463.0592" value="+14234630592" target="_blank">423.463.0592<tel:(423)%20463-0592> | Email:
> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
>
> From: Chugalug
> [mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]
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> On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins
> for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they
> are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you
> have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple
> sellers.
>
> Thanks Mitch
>
> _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing
> list [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
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> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> "Enabling
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> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted,
>> and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know
>> if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with
>> multiple sellers.
>>
>> Thanks Mitch
>>
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> Already made them aware.
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, John Alcock <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
>> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was
>>> deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please
>>> let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are
>>> willing to deal with multiple sellers.
>>>
>>> Thanks Mitch
>>>
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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Stephen Kraus
Just covering asses: You did advise them that you do not recommend the ransom path and that you cannot be liable for it if they chose that path?

Get it in writing.

Stephen

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Oh, I totally agree.  Honestly this is something I griped about the whole time I was there.  I already advised they may not get their data back.  But they are stuck at the moment.  They are completely down it had all of their databases and everything.


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Unfortunately, it'd be better to advise your client to not pay the ransom and cut their losses.

Its hard to day to their face, but this is why you setup rotational backups and always keep good copies, even for personal machines.

It is not good practice to pay out a ransom for malware. There are zero guarentees that the ransom eill be honored or result in an even more devestating financial loss.

Stephen

On Aug 17, 2017 1:31 PM, "Joel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hello,

Don't know if you got the help you need or not. Bob Biles,
[hidden email], is local to Chattanooga and host of the monthly
bitcoin meetup. When I was last in Chattanooga they were meeting at
the downtown public library. Perhaps you could reach out to him.

How much does the company need to buy? They (or you) could download
the peer-to-peer bisq software (http://bisq.io/). Its a decentralized
peer-to-peer bitcoin exchange built on Tor for better privacy, no
accounts required, no centralized registration, no company behind it.

The way it works is you put your bank account type in (if you're
bank's part of Zelle pay network, it should work), and submit a small
amount of bitcoin (0.03 BTC typically, it prevents spam transactions)
as a security deposity, which gets put in a three-way multisignature
account until the seller confirms receiving the USD, at which point
the BTC is released to the buyer and both parties receive their
security deposit back. The slowest part of the transaction is usually
waiting for the USD to clear. One other catch is that each bitcoin
transaction is limited to buying or selling 0.5 BTC maximum, to make
the whole system less likely a target for scams.

I've used bisq (formerly named bitsquare) since May 2016 as our
primary way to move our salary from the US where we're paid to France
where we work with a French denomination as missionaries.

Joel


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> Ah, today I learned! Makes sense. Thanks. :D
>
> From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:57 AM To: Cha. Unix
> Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and
> approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer
> fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will
> end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start
> the process of buying it from the exchange now though.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
>
> 1.  What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few
> exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them. 2.  So… tax
> evasion? 😝 3.  Would that be slower than trying to find someone
> local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still
> climbing? 4.  $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could
> be wrong), not that bad really.
>
> From: Chugalug
> [mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]
.org>]
> On Behalf Of Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
> To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> 1. Hard limits on currency exchange 2. Having to register the
> transaction with the Feds to comply with laws 3. Waiting period for
> funds to clear in both directions 4. Fees and more fees
>
> -AW
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote: I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just
> going to an exchange?
>
>
> William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/ Office:
> <a href="tel:423.933.2114" value="+14239332114" target="_blank">423.933.2114<tel:(423)%20933-2114> | Cell:
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> From: Chugalug
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> On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins
> for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they
> are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you
> have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple
> sellers.
>
> Thanks Mitch
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> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
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> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted,
>> and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know
>> if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with
>> multiple sellers.
>>
>> Thanks Mitch
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> Already made them aware.
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> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, John Alcock <[hidden email]>
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>> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
>> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was
>>> deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please
>>> let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are
>>> willing to deal with multiple sellers.
>>>
>>> Thanks Mitch
>>>
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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Mitch Tuck
Oh this was all unofficial it was a friend contacting me.  This was no contract job. But yes i did advise them not to pay that it probably wouldn't work.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Just covering asses: You did advise them that you do not recommend the ransom path and that you cannot be liable for it if they chose that path?

Get it in writing.

Stephen

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Oh, I totally agree.  Honestly this is something I griped about the whole time I was there.  I already advised they may not get their data back.  But they are stuck at the moment.  They are completely down it had all of their databases and everything.


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Unfortunately, it'd be better to advise your client to not pay the ransom and cut their losses.

Its hard to day to their face, but this is why you setup rotational backups and always keep good copies, even for personal machines.

It is not good practice to pay out a ransom for malware. There are zero guarentees that the ransom eill be honored or result in an even more devestating financial loss.

Stephen

On Aug 17, 2017 1:31 PM, "Joel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hello,

Don't know if you got the help you need or not. Bob Biles,
[hidden email], is local to Chattanooga and host of the monthly
bitcoin meetup. When I was last in Chattanooga they were meeting at
the downtown public library. Perhaps you could reach out to him.

How much does the company need to buy? They (or you) could download
the peer-to-peer bisq software (http://bisq.io/). Its a decentralized
peer-to-peer bitcoin exchange built on Tor for better privacy, no
accounts required, no centralized registration, no company behind it.

The way it works is you put your bank account type in (if you're
bank's part of Zelle pay network, it should work), and submit a small
amount of bitcoin (0.03 BTC typically, it prevents spam transactions)
as a security deposity, which gets put in a three-way multisignature
account until the seller confirms receiving the USD, at which point
the BTC is released to the buyer and both parties receive their
security deposit back. The slowest part of the transaction is usually
waiting for the USD to clear. One other catch is that each bitcoin
transaction is limited to buying or selling 0.5 BTC maximum, to make
the whole system less likely a target for scams.

I've used bisq (formerly named bitsquare) since May 2016 as our
primary way to move our salary from the US where we're paid to France
where we work with a French denomination as missionaries.

Joel


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>
> Ah, today I learned! Makes sense. Thanks. :D
>
> From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:57 AM To: Cha. Unix
> Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and
> approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer
> fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will
> end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start
> the process of buying it from the exchange now though.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
>
> 1.  What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few
> exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them. 2.  So… tax
> evasion? 😝 3.  Would that be slower than trying to find someone
> local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still
> climbing? 4.  $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could
> be wrong), not that bad really.
>
> From: Chugalug
> [mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]
.org>]
> On Behalf Of Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
> To: Cha. Unix Gnu Android Linux User Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> 1. Hard limits on currency exchange 2. Having to register the
> transaction with the Feds to comply with laws 3. Waiting period for
> funds to clear in both directions 4. Fees and more fees
>
> -AW
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote: I’ve seen a few people request this, what’s up with not just
> going to an exchange?
>
>
> William Roush | https://www.roushtech.net/ Office:
> <a href="tel:423.933.2114" value="+14239332114" target="_blank">423.933.2114<tel:(423)%20933-2114> | Cell:
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> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
>
> From: Chugalug
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> On Behalf Of Mitch Tuck Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:31 AM
> To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group
> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins
> for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted, and they
> are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know if you
> have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with multiple
> sellers.
>
> Thanks Mitch
>
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> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was deleted,
>> and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please let me know
>> if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are willing to deal with
>> multiple sellers.
>>
>> Thanks Mitch
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>> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
>> they will get the private keys to decrypt the data.
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>> John
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>>> Hello all,
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>>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was
>>> deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please
>>> let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are
>>> willing to deal with multiple sellers.
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Re: [Chugalug] Bitcoins

Aaron welch
Have they had a professional come in and look at the systems?

-Aaron


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Oh this was all unofficial it was a friend contacting me.  This was no contract job. But yes i did advise them not to pay that it probably wouldn't work.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Just covering asses: You did advise them that you do not recommend the ransom path and that you cannot be liable for it if they chose that path?

Get it in writing.

Stephen

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Oh, I totally agree.  Honestly this is something I griped about the whole time I was there.  I already advised they may not get their data back.  But they are stuck at the moment.  They are completely down it had all of their databases and everything.


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Unfortunately, it'd be better to advise your client to not pay the ransom and cut their losses.

Its hard to day to their face, but this is why you setup rotational backups and always keep good copies, even for personal machines.

It is not good practice to pay out a ransom for malware. There are zero guarentees that the ransom eill be honored or result in an even more devestating financial loss.

Stephen

On Aug 17, 2017 1:31 PM, "Joel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hello,

Don't know if you got the help you need or not. Bob Biles,
[hidden email], is local to Chattanooga and host of the monthly
bitcoin meetup. When I was last in Chattanooga they were meeting at
the downtown public library. Perhaps you could reach out to him.

How much does the company need to buy? They (or you) could download
the peer-to-peer bisq software (http://bisq.io/). Its a decentralized
peer-to-peer bitcoin exchange built on Tor for better privacy, no
accounts required, no centralized registration, no company behind it.

The way it works is you put your bank account type in (if you're
bank's part of Zelle pay network, it should work), and submit a small
amount of bitcoin (0.03 BTC typically, it prevents spam transactions)
as a security deposity, which gets put in a three-way multisignature
account until the seller confirms receiving the USD, at which point
the BTC is released to the buyer and both parties receive their
security deposit back. The slowest part of the transaction is usually
waiting for the USD to clear. One other catch is that each bitcoin
transaction is limited to buying or selling 0.5 BTC maximum, to make
the whole system less likely a target for scams.

I've used bisq (formerly named bitsquare) since May 2016 as our
primary way to move our salary from the US where we're paid to France
where we work with a French denomination as missionaries.

Joel


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> From: Chugalug [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:57 AM To: Cha. Unix
> Gnu Android Linux User Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re:
> [Chugalug] Bitcoins
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> To transfer in or out over $10K requires full registration and
> approval with the exchange. You are also forgetting wire transfer
> fees and such going in and out of the exchange. I think they will
> end up paying closer to $36-38K to get it locally. I would start
> the process of buying it from the exchange now though.
>
> -Aaron
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> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, William D. Roush
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> 1.  What kind of limits are we talking about? I thought quite a few
> exchanges had easily 7+ figure liquidity in them. 2.  So… tax
> evasion? 😝 3.  Would that be slower than trying to find someone
> local to give up $35k worth of Bitcoin when the price is still
> climbing? 4.  $175 for $35k of Bitcoin as far as I can see (I could
> be wrong), not that bad really.
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> On Behalf Of Aaron welch Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:46 AM
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> 1. Hard limits on currency exchange 2. Having to register the
> transaction with the Feds to comply with laws 3. Waiting period for
> funds to clear in both directions 4. Fees and more fees
>
> -AW
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM, William D. Roush
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> going to an exchange?
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> Hello all,
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> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of bitcoins
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>> Hello all,
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>> I know this goes without saying, but there is no guarantee that
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>> John
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>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Mitch Tuck <[hidden email]>
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>>> Hello all,
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>>> I have a company that I use to work for that is in need of
>>> bitcoins for some ransomware.  All of their backups was
>>> deleted, and they are needing 8 bitcoins for recovery.  Please
>>> let me know if you have any bitcoins for sale.  They are
>>> willing to deal with multiple sellers.
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>>> Thanks Mitch
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