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[Chugalug] EPB announcement

David White
Residences with a 50mbps connection are being upgraded automatically to a 100mbps connection.

You can now get a Gbps connection for $70/month.

I haven't seen any local news on it yet, but here's one by the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/how-chattanooga-beat-google-fiber-by-half-a-decade/

The press conference is happening now, and twitter is pretty abuzz over it right now.

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

Nick Smith
Do you know what they said would happen to people that already had 100mbps?
I heard a rumor they were upgrading them to 1gbps.
If thats the case, i cant wait!


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM, David White <[hidden email]> wrote:
Residences with a 50mbps connection are being upgraded automatically to a 100mbps connection.

You can now get a Gbps connection for $70/month.

I haven't seen any local news on it yet, but here's one by the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/how-chattanooga-beat-google-fiber-by-half-a-decade/

The press conference is happening now, and twitter is pretty abuzz over it right now.

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

David White
That's correct.



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Nick Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Do you know what they said would happen to people that already had 100mbps?
I heard a rumor they were upgrading them to 1gbps.
If thats the case, i cant wait!


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM, David White <[hidden email]> wrote:
Residences with a 50mbps connection are being upgraded automatically to a 100mbps connection.

You can now get a Gbps connection for $70/month.

I haven't seen any local news on it yet, but here's one by the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/how-chattanooga-beat-google-fiber-by-half-a-decade/

The press conference is happening now, and twitter is pretty abuzz over it right now.

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

basic2point0


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

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That announcement video was about as boring as possible. Nice to see the business customers get the bump as well.

I wonder how long it will be before they just offer one speed...


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

Rod-Lists
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Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

Phil Shapiro
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_dtKZLkXKo

             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
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Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

Aaron welch
Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
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Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Stephen Kraus
Its far more innovation than Comcast or AT&T is pulling right now, so at least EPB has THAT going for them. Its pretty easy to compete when your competitors are sitting on their hands hoping everyone will just stick around for the Sports channels.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:
Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
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Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

William D. Roush
I'm a huge fan of EPB, but I agree with Aaron, keep pushing EPB to provide the best service possible and make it even more viable for business use. Don't just stop at giving us cheap gig, they're doing a great job as is, but don't let Comcast or AT&T even think of catching up. It'll mean a lot for IT start ups around here to get a solid fiber line for cheap for their services and keep them in-house.
William Roush

On 9/17/2013 2:10 PM, Stephen Kraus wrote:
Its far more innovation than Comcast or AT&T is pulling right now, so at least EPB has THAT going for them. Its pretty easy to compete when your competitors are sitting on their hands hoping everyone will just stick around for the Sports channels.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:
Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



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Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
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Regards,

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Phil Sieg
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Hmmm....

Since I can feel little to no difference between 15/30/50/100 mbps as long as the ping is low on each of them, I see no real benefit.

When everyone else in the WORLD has low ping/fiber then we'll be talking... Now I am the fastest truck in a slow convoy... and a convoy moves at the speed of the slowest truck.

Meh.

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On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement


Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Stephen Kraus
As long as EPB is routing their home fiber into a fiber backbone, the speed should stay decent. Its when it hits copper that the ping will build up.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Phil Sieg <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hmmm....

Since I can feel little to no difference between 15/30/50/100 mbps as long as the ping is low on each of them, I see no real benefit.

When everyone else in the WORLD has low ping/fiber then we'll be talking... Now I am the fastest truck in a slow convoy... and a convoy moves at the speed of the slowest truck.

Meh.

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www.snapfon.com
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On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement


Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Nick Smith
EPB speed test site - 100Mbps down/up
Speedtest.net - 9.44Mbps down 40.09 up

Its nice to say ive got 100megs or a Gig at the house, but when i cant prove it via speed tests it kinda sucks.
Thats a huge difference with the closest hop on speedtest.net


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
As long as EPB is routing their home fiber into a fiber backbone, the speed should stay decent. Its when it hits copper that the ping will build up.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Phil Sieg <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hmmm....

Since I can feel little to no difference between 15/30/50/100 mbps as long as the ping is low on each of them, I see no real benefit.

When everyone else in the WORLD has low ping/fiber then we'll be talking... Now I am the fastest truck in a slow convoy... and a convoy moves at the speed of the slowest truck.

Meh.

Phil Sieg
President
SeniorTech LLC / snapfōn®
www.snapfon.com
[hidden email]

Phone: <a href="tel:423.535.9968" value="+14235359968" target="_blank">423.535.9968
Fax: <a href="tel:423.265.9820" value="+14232659820" target="_blank">423.265.9820
Mobile: <a href="tel:423.331.0725" value="+14233310725" target="_blank">423.331.0725

"The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."

Steve Jobs, 1955-2011




On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement


Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
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Regards,

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Stephen Kraus
Wait...you have a higher up than down?


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Nick Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
EPB speed test site - 100Mbps down/up
Speedtest.net - 9.44Mbps down 40.09 up

Its nice to say ive got 100megs or a Gig at the house, but when i cant prove it via speed tests it kinda sucks.
Thats a huge difference with the closest hop on speedtest.net


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
As long as EPB is routing their home fiber into a fiber backbone, the speed should stay decent. Its when it hits copper that the ping will build up.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Phil Sieg <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hmmm....

Since I can feel little to no difference between 15/30/50/100 mbps as long as the ping is low on each of them, I see no real benefit.

When everyone else in the WORLD has low ping/fiber then we'll be talking... Now I am the fastest truck in a slow convoy... and a convoy moves at the speed of the slowest truck.

Meh.

Phil Sieg
President
SeniorTech LLC / snapfōn®
www.snapfon.com
[hidden email]

Phone: <a href="tel:423.535.9968" value="+14235359968" target="_blank">423.535.9968
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"The computer is the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with. It's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."

Steve Jobs, 1955-2011




On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement


Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



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> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
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Regards,

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Nick Smith
Thats what its telling me.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Wait...you have a higher up than down?


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Nick Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
EPB speed test site - 100Mbps down/up
Speedtest.net - 9.44Mbps down 40.09 up

Its nice to say ive got 100megs or a Gig at the house, but when i cant prove it via speed tests it kinda sucks.
Thats a huge difference with the closest hop on speedtest.net


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
As long as EPB is routing their home fiber into a fiber backbone, the speed should stay decent. Its when it hits copper that the ping will build up.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Phil Sieg <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hmmm....

Since I can feel little to no difference between 15/30/50/100 mbps as long as the ping is low on each of them, I see no real benefit.

When everyone else in the WORLD has low ping/fiber then we'll be talking... Now I am the fastest truck in a slow convoy... and a convoy moves at the speed of the slowest truck.

Meh.

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On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
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Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
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Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement

William D. Roush
Which is odd, I pull 56.70/38.65 from Georgia Institute of Technology, what SpeedTest server are you using? Sure it isn't under heavy load? The lopsided download makes me think so...


William Roush


On 9/17/2013 2:43 PM, Nick Smith wrote:
Thats what its telling me.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
Wait...you have a higher up than down?


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Nick Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
EPB speed test site - 100Mbps down/up
Speedtest.net - 9.44Mbps down 40.09 up

Its nice to say ive got 100megs or a Gig at the house, but when i cant prove it via speed tests it kinda sucks.
Thats a huge difference with the closest hop on speedtest.net


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
As long as EPB is routing their home fiber into a fiber backbone, the speed should stay decent. Its when it hits copper that the ping will build up.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Phil Sieg <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hmmm....

Since I can feel little to no difference between 15/30/50/100 mbps as long as the ping is low on each of them, I see no real benefit.

When everyone else in the WORLD has low ping/fiber then we'll be talking... Now I am the fastest truck in a slow convoy... and a convoy moves at the speed of the slowest truck.

Meh.

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www.snapfon.com
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On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
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Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:17:34 -0400
Phil Sieg <[hidden email]> wrote:
> When everyone else in the WORLD has low ping/fiber then we'll be
> talking...

Frankly I'm holding out for sub 25ms ping times from Northern
California to Chattanooga...

Dan
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Rod-Lists
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Well there are people on the list who can break it.
I say go ahead and try.
Give them a push.

BTW Just got a comcast sale flyer. $14.99 per month for a year. Available til the 30th.
No I don't miss the pack shaping on my repos.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:53:46 -0400, Aaron welch <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with the paper as they always ask my opinion when EPB makes announcements.  My take is that this is a really good marketing plan, but it has no real substance as EPB has consistently stated that "Gig Service" is only cheap if you don't use it.  I also stated that it is frustrating when businesses that can provide a real world use case for the network do not get a chance without paying extremely high service rates on the chance that we will consistently use the bandwidth.  Just my 2 cents.  Not an EPB hater, just want to see real innovation with what they have built.

-AW



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Phil Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
  This screencast shows a visual representation of gigabit speed -- with a file
transfer of 4.5 GB (the same as a DVD worth of data).

  Takes less than two minutes.


             phil



From: "Rod" <[hidden email]>
To: "Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:30:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Chugalug] EPB announcement


Can we burn Iron Man an verizon fios in effgy?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:04:59 -0400, Carey A <[hidden email]> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 9/17/2013 10:44 AM, David White wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> WRCB just published this story a few seconds ago:
> http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/23453283/epb-cuts-prices-raise-speeds-for-customers

If
>
you go here:

http://shop3.timesfreepress.com/chattanooga/view/epb-fiber-optics/stream-the-live-announcement-9-17-13/18221427

and click the "View Website" you can view the entire stream on EPB's
website without it being interrupted by the rotation.

Regards,

dtb

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Daniel L. Appleget
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Dan,

Let me test, what is anIP close to you I can Ping?
Before this announcement I have seen incredibly low pings during my
testing, I new EPB had made major change.



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> Frankly I'm holding out for sub 25ms ping times from Northern
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