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Michael Harrison
Fellow Linux nutcases, especially the ones not on EPB in Chattanooga. I need some help.

Would you please click:  https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php

To help me collect some speed test data? Preferably from a physical internet connection (not mobile data on a mobile phone).

The “grade” you will get afterwards is currently completely bogus, because I have no data to base the grades on.

My goal, our goal, is to let prospective customers get an indication of what their expected success will be, using VoIP/SIP based internet telephony.

As we collect some data, I will share the results.

This speed test is very basic and rough.. will tuned it up more soon.

 






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Aaron welch
Done. Do you need any further feedback?

-Aaron


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Fellow Linux nutcases, especially the ones not on EPB in Chattanooga. I need some help.

Would you please click:  https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php

To help me collect some speed test data? Preferably from a physical internet connection (not mobile data on a mobile phone).

The “grade” you will get afterwards is currently completely bogus, because I have no data to base the grades on.

My goal, our goal, is to let prospective customers get an indication of what their expected success will be, using VoIP/SIP based internet telephony.

As we collect some data, I will share the results.

This speed test is very basic and rough.. will tuned it up more soon.








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Jared Hamilton
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Done from Cleveland. Since our grades are bogus, can I tell people I got
an A?

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Sparky
Done from Chattanooga vpn/peace and charter in jasper



But charter in jasper got

Sent from my iDevice

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DaWorm
Not sure if my test went through EPB or through our corporate data center in Plano TX.  I presume the latter, but can't be sure, I didn't set up the network here.

Jeff

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Done from Chattanooga vpn/peace and charter in jasper



But charter in jasper got

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> On Aug 9, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Jared Hamilton <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Sparky
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sorry forgot the rest of the messae...charter in Jasper got an F- so I think it failed. I guess I have to go to summer school:)

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Done from Chattanooga vpn/peace and charter in jasper



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Re: [Chugalug] For members not on EPB...

Matt Eslinger
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Done. Running EPB here at the home office.

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Done from Chattanooga vpn/peace and charter in jasper



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Re: [Chugalug] For members not on EPB...

David Rucker
Hello,

F. Done in Ringgold on RTC fiber.

Thanks 
David R.

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Done. Running EPB here at the home office.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Steven Brewer <[hidden email]> wrote:
Done from Chattanooga vpn/peace and charter in jasper



But charter in jasper got

Sent from my iDevice

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Aaron welch
That is odd. What were your stats?

-AW

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Hello,

F. Done in Ringgold on RTC fiber.

Thanks 
David R.

On Aug 9, 2017 1:17 PM, "Matt Eslinger" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Done. Running EPB here at the home office.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Steven Brewer <[hidden email]> wrote:
Done from Chattanooga vpn/peace and charter in jasper



But charter in jasper got

Sent from my iDevice

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Jared Hamilton <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Done from Cleveland. Since our grades are bogus, can I tell people I got
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Re: [Chugalug] For members not on EPB...

Dan Lyke
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:46:35 -0400
Mike Harrison <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Fellow Linux nutcases, especially the ones not on EPB in Chattanooga.
> I need some help.
>
> Would you please click:
> https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php

Huh. At a guess, I'd say you're pretty bandwidth limited at your server.

Two tests, one from WiFi, one hard-wired. Wifi said 14 down, 6 up, 224
ms ping.

Google's speed test on that same machine said 18 down 5 up. Another Bay
Area speed test said 24 down.

Hard-wired, said 6.84 down, 7.51 up, 670.12 latency (!!!!), so I ran it
again, 14.62 down, 7.6 up, 97.27 latency.

For that same machine, Google says 37.8 down, 5.2 up, 31ms latency, a
Bay Area speed test says 50 down, 5.7 up, 24ms...

Dan
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Chad Smith
Are you on the dark side of the moon? Your internet connection is not suitable for this type of phone service.

No, I just don't live in "Gig City, USA".  :(

- Chad W. Smith

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:46:35 -0400
Mike Harrison <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Fellow Linux nutcases, especially the ones not on EPB in Chattanooga.
> I need some help.
>
> Would you please click:
> https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php

Huh. At a guess, I'd say you're pretty bandwidth limited at your server.

Two tests, one from WiFi, one hard-wired. Wifi said 14 down, 6 up, 224
ms ping.

Google's speed test on that same machine said 18 down 5 up. Another Bay
Area speed test said 24 down.

Hard-wired, said 6.84 down, 7.51 up, 670.12 latency (!!!!), so I ran it
again, 14.62 down, 7.6 up, 97.27 latency.

For that same machine, Google says 37.8 down, 5.2 up, 31ms latency, a
Bay Area speed test says 50 down, 5.7 up, 24ms...

Dan
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Erik Hanson
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Done, from Comcast Business in Tuscaloosa.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:16 PM Dan Lyke <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:46:35 -0400
Mike Harrison <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Fellow Linux nutcases, especially the ones not on EPB in Chattanooga.
> I need some help.
>
> Would you please click:
> https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php

Huh. At a guess, I'd say you're pretty bandwidth limited at your server.

Two tests, one from WiFi, one hard-wired. Wifi said 14 down, 6 up, 224
ms ping.

Google's speed test on that same machine said 18 down 5 up. Another Bay
Area speed test said 24 down.

Hard-wired, said 6.84 down, 7.51 up, 670.12 latency (!!!!), so I ran it
again, 14.62 down, 7.6 up, 97.27 latency.

For that same machine, Google says 37.8 down, 5.2 up, 31ms latency, a
Bay Area speed test says 50 down, 5.7 up, 24ms...

Dan
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Re: [Chugalug] For members not on EPB...

Michael Harrison
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> On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Dan Lyke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:46:35 -0400
> Mike Harrison <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Fellow Linux nutcases, especially the ones not on EPB in Chattanooga.
>> I need some help.
>>
>> Would you please click:
>> https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php
>
> Huh. At a guess, I'd say you're pretty bandwidth limited at your server.


Bingo.

Currently yes.

It’s  a small Linode. And ya’ll testing has proven that it’s not a very valid test. Thank You!

Which is enough to make me go “Hmmm…” and maybe we’ll find a better way of doing this. There are providers of such services…

The good news is, this isn’t what does the back end telco.. it’s just a customer portal server.

Raw data, of very marginal usefulness, which in of itself is useful.


+--------------------------------+--------+----------+--------+-------+
| isp                            | upload | download | ping   | grade |
+--------------------------------+--------+----------+--------+-------+
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  76.63 |    61.94 |   8.37 | A+    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  29.97 |    29.51 |  52.40 | F     |
| AT&T Wireless                  |   7.59 |     5.59 | 104.12 | F-    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  13.67 |    20.64 |  14.73 | A+    |
| Birch Communications           | 113.64 |   131.90 |  12.46 | A+    |
| Spectrum                       |   5.41 |    64.01 |  56.91 | F     |
| Comcast Cable                  |   4.00 |     9.18 | 112.09 | F-    |
| VPNtranet LLC.                 |  66.51 |    66.60 |  70.92 | F-    |
| HuntTel                        |  39.35 |   143.44 |  29.39 | A     |
| Spectrum                       |   5.12 |    64.36 | 117.20 | F-    |
| Lodden Technology              |  18.90 |     1.77 |  49.95 | F     |
| Lodden Technology              |  12.21 |     2.25 |  59.46 | F     |
| CERFnet                        |  31.63 |    37.59 |  50.15 | F     |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  32.28 |    18.20 |  17.79 | A+    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  29.32 |    47.73 |   9.22 | A+    |
| Spectrum                       |   5.67 |    78.11 | 117.87 | F-    |
| The Ringgold Telephone Company |  23.79 |    45.18 |  42.08 | F     |
| AT&T U-verse                   |   6.01 |    14.07 | 224.48 | F-    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  70.70 |    56.85 |  10.50 | A+    |
| AT&T U-verse                   |   7.51 |     6.84 | 670.12 | F-    |
| Comcast Cable                  |   4.31 |    14.77 | 252.61 | F-    |
| AT&T U-verse                   |   1.84 |    21.86 | 323.53 | F-    |
+--------------------------------+--------+----------+--------+———+


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Michael Harrison
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> On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Chad Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Are you on the dark side of the moon? Your internet connection is not suitable for this type of phone service.
>
> No, I just don't live in "Gig City, USA".  :(


Yeah, I’ve got a bad sense of humor.. and the test is proving to be not very valid.
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Joe Freeman
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Just for giggles, from  down in here in Hammond, LA, I'm getting 222.51M down, 98.30M up, 33.43ms, with a grade of A...

Looks like I'm 12 hops away total, and the traffic is going out my Dallas POP to the internap fabric .

Is your server in Dallas? It's only a couple of hops past the internap fabric from my Dallas POP.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Mike Harrison <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Dan Lyke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:46:35 -0400
> Mike Harrison <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Fellow Linux nutcases, especially the ones not on EPB in Chattanooga.
>> I need some help.
>>
>> Would you please click:
>> https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php
>
> Huh. At a guess, I'd say you're pretty bandwidth limited at your server.


Bingo.

Currently yes.

It’s  a small Linode. And ya’ll testing has proven that it’s not a very valid test. Thank You!

Which is enough to make me go “Hmmm…” and maybe we’ll find a better way of doing this. There are providers of such services…

The good news is, this isn’t what does the back end telco.. it’s just a customer portal server.

Raw data, of very marginal usefulness, which in of itself is useful.


+--------------------------------+--------+----------+--------+-------+
| isp                            | upload | download | ping   | grade |
+--------------------------------+--------+----------+--------+-------+
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  76.63 |    61.94 |   8.37 | A+    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  29.97 |    29.51 |  52.40 | F     |
| AT&T Wireless                  |   7.59 |     5.59 | 104.12 | F-    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  13.67 |    20.64 |  14.73 | A+    |
| Birch Communications           | 113.64 |   131.90 |  12.46 | A+    |
| Spectrum                       |   5.41 |    64.01 |  56.91 | F     |
| Comcast Cable                  |   4.00 |     9.18 | 112.09 | F-    |
| VPNtranet LLC.                 |  66.51 |    66.60 |  70.92 | F-    |
| HuntTel                        |  39.35 |   143.44 |  29.39 | A     |
| Spectrum                       |   5.12 |    64.36 | 117.20 | F-    |
| Lodden Technology              |  18.90 |     1.77 |  49.95 | F     |
| Lodden Technology              |  12.21 |     2.25 |  59.46 | F     |
| CERFnet                        |  31.63 |    37.59 |  50.15 | F     |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  32.28 |    18.20 |  17.79 | A+    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  29.32 |    47.73 |   9.22 | A+    |
| Spectrum                       |   5.67 |    78.11 | 117.87 | F-    |
| The Ringgold Telephone Company |  23.79 |    45.18 |  42.08 | F     |
| AT&T U-verse                   |   6.01 |    14.07 | 224.48 | F-    |
| EPB Fiber Optics               |  70.70 |    56.85 |  10.50 | A+    |
| AT&T U-verse                   |   7.51 |     6.84 | 670.12 | F-    |
| Comcast Cable                  |   4.31 |    14.77 | 252.61 | F-    |
| AT&T U-verse                   |   1.84 |    21.86 | 323.53 | F-    |
+--------------------------------+--------+----------+--------+———+


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Re: [Chugalug] For members not on EPB...

Aaron welch
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Heh... I win. Not on EPB. :-P

-AW

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> On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Chad Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Are you on the dark side of the moon? Your internet connection is not suitable for this type of phone service.
>
> No, I just don't live in "Gig City, USA".  :(


Yeah, I’ve got a bad sense of humor.. and the test is proving to be not very valid.
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Michael Harrison
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> On Aug 9, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Joe Freeman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Just for giggles, from  down in here in Hammond, LA, I'm getting 222.51M down, 98.30M up, 33.43ms, with a grade of A...
>
> Looks like I'm 12 hops away total, and the traffic is going out my Dallas POP to the internap fabric .
>
> Is your server in Dallas? It's only a couple of hops past the internap fabric from my Dallas POP.


I think it’s physically in Atlanta.. currently.

It’s in the “cloud”.. :)


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Ed King-2
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Done, using telekinesis.  A+

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Hello,

F. Done in Ringgold on RTC fiber.

Thanks
David R.

On Aug 9, 2017 1:17 PM, "Matt Eslinger" <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
Done. Running EPB here at the home office.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Steven Brewer <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
Done from Chattanooga vpn/peace and charter in jasper



But charter in jasper got

Sent from my iDevice

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Jared Hamilton <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
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Re: [Chugalug] For members not on EPB...

Michael Harrison

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 1:08 AM, Ed King <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Done, using telekinesis.  A+
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Those results were phenomenal. Thank you. Blew a 10gb EPB Fiber connection away. I really like the negative ping times, you most be slightly prescient.

I’m not sure what a negative 30-40 millisecond advantage gets you unless you are high volume trading stocks in real-time. Oh. THAT’s how you afford all those Nova’s and cool computers. ;)

https://portal.ring-u.com/portal/connection.php

Now shows the raw data collected, including Ed’s "Telekineses Ethereal” from *:*:*:*:1 at the top of the stack.

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What it really did, was demonstrate the variables involved in a decent speed test, including the server capacity and various other issued involved in a point to point speed test via a web browser and endpoints that might also be on wifi.. There are a couple of hosted solutions for sale, most using Flash although some are using Javascript.. but right now spending a few grand to solve a “not really a problem yet” problem isn’t going to happen. Seriously thinking about doing it even simpler and just asking them a few questions.






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