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[Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Stephen Haywood
I just found this on Craigslist. I'm trying to decide if the owner doesn't know how much it's worth or if it's stolen. http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/sys/4159346470.html

2012 Apple Macbook Pro 15 inch retina screen - $1000

2012 Apple Macbook Pro 15 inch retina screen

2.6 ghz intel i7
2012 model
15 inch retina diplay
8 gb of ram
includes box, charger, and disks.
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Dave Brockman
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On 11/12/2013 4:03 PM, Stephen Haywood wrote:

> I just found this on Craigslist. I'm trying to decide if the owner
> doesn't know how much it's worth or if it's stolen.
> http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/sys/4159346470.html
>
>
> 2012 Apple Macbook Pro 15 inch retina screen - $1000
>
> 2012 Apple Macbook Pro 15 inch retina screen
>
> 2.6 ghz intel i7 2012 model 15 inch retina diplay 8 gb of ram
> includes box, charger, and disks. --

/shrug.  $1000 is more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop
with 15" display and only 8GB of RAM.  That Apple sticker may have
some value to you, however, so please adjust your pricing accordingly.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Aaron welch
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display

$1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600 off new.  Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

-AW



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 11/12/2013 4:03 PM, Stephen Haywood wrote:
> I just found this on Craigslist. I'm trying to decide if the owner
> doesn't know how much it's worth or if it's stolen.
> http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/sys/4159346470.html
>
>
> 2012 Apple Macbook Pro 15 inch retina screen - $1000
>
> 2012 Apple Macbook Pro 15 inch retina screen
>
> 2.6 ghz intel i7 2012 model 15 inch retina diplay 8 gb of ram
> includes box, charger, and disks. --

/shrug.  $1000 is more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop
with 15" display and only 8GB of RAM.  That Apple sticker may have
some value to you, however, so please adjust your pricing accordingly.

Regards,

dtb

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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Dave Brockman
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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Eric Wolf

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Stephen Kraus

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Eric Wolf
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Randy Yates
I sold a two year old Macbook Pro for $1700. It originally cost me $2400. They hold their value much better than other computers. I'm no Mac fanboy and I think they are too pricey, but when you factor in their resale value, it's almost worth it. 


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Eric Wolf <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Stephen Kraus
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I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Jason Griffey
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Alex Smith (K4RNT)
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Chad Smith
Amazon says the screen on that Samsung is 1600 x 900 at 15.6" (118 dpi).  The MBP Retina is 2880 by 1800 at 15.4" (221 dpi).  That's a pretty big difference - almost twice as much.

- Chad W. Smith


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Dan Eveland
This might be a minor mistake:

"includes box, charger, and disks"

There are no "disks" for it. It has no CD/DVD drive at all.

Dan


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Chad Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Amazon says the screen on that Samsung is 1600 x 900 at 15.6" (118 dpi).  The MBP Retina is 2880 by 1800 at 15.4" (221 dpi).  That's a pretty big difference - almost twice as much.

- Chad W. Smith


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Chad Smith

- Chad W. Smith


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Dan Eveland <[hidden email]> wrote:
This might be a minor mistake:

"includes box, charger, and disks"

There are no "disks" for it. It has no CD/DVD drive at all.

Dan


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Chad Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Amazon says the screen on that Samsung is 1600 x 900 at 15.6" (118 dpi).  The MBP Retina is 2880 by 1800 at 15.4" (221 dpi).  That's a pretty big difference - almost twice as much.

- Chad W. Smith


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

-=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Chad Smith
btw - in case you don't have the formula for calculating DPI memorized - there's a neat little webapp / website I just found for finding that.  http://dpi.lv/  just put in the resolution and screen size in inches, and boom.

- Chad W. Smith


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Chad Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

- Chad W. Smith


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Dan Eveland <[hidden email]> wrote:
This might be a minor mistake:

"includes box, charger, and disks"

There are no "disks" for it. It has no CD/DVD drive at all.

Dan


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Chad Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Amazon says the screen on that Samsung is 1600 x 900 at 15.6" (118 dpi).  The MBP Retina is 2880 by 1800 at 15.4" (221 dpi).  That's a pretty big difference - almost twice as much.

- Chad W. Smith


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Jason Griffey
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It is plastic, and as Chad noted, the screen isn't even remotely close to the same quality. Slightly slower clockspeed on the processor (probably not enough to ever notice, but there it is). What's the battery life like? The Samsung is a fine computer, but I don't think you can reasonably compare the build quality to the macbook pro.

Apple makes _fantastic_ hardware, and charges a premium for it. Their hardware also retains its value over time. $1000 for that Retina Pro would be an amazing deal.

jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

-=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=-
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Stephen Kraus
<a href="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-17-3-laptop-12gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/9560016.p?id=1219021957327&amp;skuId=9560016&amp;ref=06&amp;loc=01&amp;ci_src=14110944&amp;ci_sku=9560016&amp;extensionType={adtype}:{network}&amp;s_kwcid=PTC!pla!{keyword}!{matchtype}!{adwords_producttargetid}!{network}!{ifmobile:M}!{creative}&amp;kpid=9560016&amp;k_clickid=e48731e1-f4be-47a4-9cab-3e15d5a4ef74">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-17-3-laptop-12gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/9560016.p?id=1219021957327&skuId=9560016&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9560016&extensionType={adtype}:{network}&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!{keyword}!{matchtype}!{adwords_producttargetid}!{network}!{ifmobile:M}!{creative}&kpid=9560016&k_clickid=e48731e1-f4be-47a4-9cab-3e15d5a4ef74

Please tell me what you do that even remotely needs 2880 x 1800. Even if you watch HD movies, they don't exceed 1080 resolution, maybe if you do Photoshop or CAD it MIGHT be worth it.

I'm sorry, I think the Apple premium is hilarious for something I cannot repair myself, and the ability to customize my hardware and repair it goes a long way more than resale value, mainly because usually I'm not planning to resell my laptop like my car. If I burn out the graphics in my Dell Precision? I can swap in a new graphics card. If I burn it out in my HP Elitebook? Same thing. If the battery fails, its cheap and easy to purchase. If the Keyboard gets soaked by my 1 year old, its like 5 seconds to swap it out.

Screw unibody designs, I don't know why people like them beyond the sleek feel, because otherwise their just a maintenance nightmare. Maybe we just have different interests and views, I agree, and its not like Apple Macbook Pros are BAD, that isn't what I'm saying, but if I had to choose between modular and customization and unibody and sleek, I'll take modular and customize-able any day. For the price

If the only selling point is the screen, then I have a hard time biting that. For mobility I don't need that sort of resolution, but if I'm at home I have a 2800x1800 screen I can plug into and get that resolution.

If there was ONE thing I would buy that is Unibody, I'd throw down the $1,500 for the Razer Edge Pro gaming Tablet:

http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-edge-pro

Dual Core i7 1.9Ghz - 3.0 Ghz Turbo
8GB DDR3 (16GB Max)
Nvidia GT 640M 2GB w/ Intel GMA Hybrid
10.1" (1366x768) (Okay the Resolution isn't great)
128GB or 256GB SSD
2.1lbs

That is my dream tablet, throw some Red Hat on it and dual boot with Windows 7 and I'm in heaven.



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:

It is plastic, and as Chad noted, the screen isn't even remotely close to the same quality. Slightly slower clockspeed on the processor (probably not enough to ever notice, but there it is). What's the battery life like? The Samsung is a fine computer, but I don't think you can reasonably compare the build quality to the macbook pro.

Apple makes _fantastic_ hardware, and charges a premium for it. Their hardware also retains its value over time. $1000 for that Retina Pro would be an amazing deal.

jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

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> Amazon says the screen on that Samsung is 1600 x 900 at 15.6" (118 dpi).
>  The MBP Retina is 2880 by 1800 at 15.4" (221 dpi).  That's a pretty big
> difference - almost twice as much.
>
Yep. But do you NEED that high a resolution?
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Re: [Chugalug] OT: MacBook for sale. Too cheap?

Nick Smith
Yes.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM, John Aldrich <[hidden email]> wrote:
Quoting Chad Smith <[hidden email]>:

Amazon says the screen on that Samsung is 1600 x 900 at 15.6" (118 dpi).
 The MBP Retina is 2880 by 1800 at 15.4" (221 dpi).  That's a pretty big
difference - almost twice as much.

Yep. But do you NEED that high a resolution?

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Aaron welch
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The Razer is a piece of sh!t that is useless without attaching a bunch of accessories to it so that it is functional.  Speaking as a former owner and current owner of the Razer Blade that is also a POS.

-AW


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-17-3-laptop-12gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/9560016.p?id=1219021957327&skuId=9560016&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9560016&extensionType={adtype}:{network}&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!{keyword}!{matchtype}!{adwords_producttargetid}!{network}!{ifmobile:M}!{creative}&kpid=9560016&k_clickid=e48731e1-f4be-47a4-9cab-3e15d5a4ef74

Please tell me what you do that even remotely needs 2880 x 1800. Even if you watch HD movies, they don't exceed 1080 resolution, maybe if you do Photoshop or CAD it MIGHT be worth it.

I'm sorry, I think the Apple premium is hilarious for something I cannot repair myself, and the ability to customize my hardware and repair it goes a long way more than resale value, mainly because usually I'm not planning to resell my laptop like my car. If I burn out the graphics in my Dell Precision? I can swap in a new graphics card. If I burn it out in my HP Elitebook? Same thing. If the battery fails, its cheap and easy to purchase. If the Keyboard gets soaked by my 1 year old, its like 5 seconds to swap it out.

Screw unibody designs, I don't know why people like them beyond the sleek feel, because otherwise their just a maintenance nightmare. Maybe we just have different interests and views, I agree, and its not like Apple Macbook Pros are BAD, that isn't what I'm saying, but if I had to choose between modular and customization and unibody and sleek, I'll take modular and customize-able any day. For the price

If the only selling point is the screen, then I have a hard time biting that. For mobility I don't need that sort of resolution, but if I'm at home I have a 2800x1800 screen I can plug into and get that resolution.

If there was ONE thing I would buy that is Unibody, I'd throw down the $1,500 for the Razer Edge Pro gaming Tablet:

http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-edge-pro

Dual Core i7 1.9Ghz - 3.0 Ghz Turbo
8GB DDR3 (16GB Max)
Nvidia GT 640M 2GB w/ Intel GMA Hybrid
10.1" (1366x768) (Okay the Resolution isn't great)
128GB or 256GB SSD
2.1lbs

That is my dream tablet, throw some Red Hat on it and dual boot with Windows 7 and I'm in heaven.



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:

It is plastic, and as Chad noted, the screen isn't even remotely close to the same quality. Slightly slower clockspeed on the processor (probably not enough to ever notice, but there it is). What's the battery life like? The Samsung is a fine computer, but I don't think you can reasonably compare the build quality to the macbook pro.

Apple makes _fantastic_ hardware, and charges a premium for it. Their hardware also retains its value over time. $1000 for that Retina Pro would be an amazing deal.

jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://dft.ba/-7ayU

Don't know about the DPI rating, but this is the same model laptop I bought earlier this year. It's a fantastic rig.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jason Griffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna bite on this one:

So: show me an example of a LOT more hardware (same i7, same RAM or more, same build quality (metal/aluminium unibody construction) with a 15 inch screen at 220dpi for $1000...in a laptop, of course. Hell, for $1500. What would your suggestion be? 

Jason


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

I didn't say they don't sell.

Either way, for price you can get a LOT more hardware elsewhere in another format.

On Nov 13, 2013 2:24 AM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The links I gave were Completed/Sold listings.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Stephen Kraus <[hidden email]> wrote:

Apple sellers tend to over value their hardware because the Apple brand demands a hefty price, and people will pay it.

Not that I would, for that much dough I'd get an ASUS Republic of Gamers or something with more guts.

On Nov 12, 2013 9:08 PM, "Eric Wolf" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Brockman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 11/12/2013 4:25 PM, Aaron welch wrote:
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC976LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-26ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display
>
>  $1899 refurb from Apple with 512GB SSD.  The 256GB to 512GB
> upgrade is $300.  So if it is legit, then you are saving about $600
> off new. Applecare adds about $350 to the cost of the item and
> should be required as repairs on these things is pricey.

Apparently Apple doesn't know how to factor in depreciation for the
price of their sticker.

Way more than I would pay for a year+ old used laptop.  Regardless of
the age of the sticker.

Regards,

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