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Hash: SHA1 On 9/16/2013 12:41 PM, William Roush wrote: > Yeah, sorry, bit of a wrong suggestion, forums and mail lists can > be kind of "joined", I've seen a lot of places do it. Yahoo groups used to have a "combined" forum/list-serv set-up. It acted like a mailing list to those that wanted a list, and it offered a forum-esque web portal to the groups. I actually liked the way it worked, but I never found the equivalent in the wild, software-wise. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSNzcqAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdTawIAI8YGWyAAzUny5WH85RNkPXC 9Fid5PCQYkF24W+Bad3FS1NavMJxlKeBTAHBNlpUzJoNYvnEqbOLYAmASwJP4RWz H2AOgFkG2woKASm9ujHLd1fOJZjERGm3Ko2WYgcqM5JJEhuEK1ssouNdqSSDQt7y 5BLsj4pQZQ37J5AzKwbimrh5bJwWvIuT7jOOp/FGkAVyghsmGHgK3pf30Ec7nQcu r3Iqm9wYuLBChD16dHGoqVIagedwZ/hQ/n7T61S3vO56+t4LLoUnM/NEUmTxdDki gixD34YkPT6bU0laXSeY+FCuPUKoJ8I18vTEBICB5wkbhrJsOHq9VlPbr/0pEd8= =W8vW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
Quoting Dave Brockman <[hidden email]>:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 9/16/2013 12:41 PM, William Roush wrote: >> Yeah, sorry, bit of a wrong suggestion, forums and mail lists can >> be kind of "joined", I've seen a lot of places do it. > > Yahoo groups used to have a "combined" forum/list-serv set-up. It > acted like a mailing list to those that wanted a list, and it offered > a forum-esque web portal to the groups. I actually liked the way it > worked, but I never found the equivalent in the wild, software-wise. > can't post via email any more. :( _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
Mailman mailing lists do list in their management option, a mail<>
news gateway. Does this not work. I love email mailing lists ( less intimidating name for folks than listserve ), and I hate hate hate forums. ----- Message from [hidden email] --------- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:39:38 -0400 From: John Aldrich <[hidden email]> Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Open Source "personality flaw" (was Digest) To: [hidden email] > Quoting Dave Brockman <[hidden email]>: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 9/16/2013 12:41 PM, William Roush wrote: >>> Yeah, sorry, bit of a wrong suggestion, forums and mail lists can >>> be kind of "joined", I've seen a lot of places do it. >> >> Yahoo groups used to have a "combined" forum/list-serv set-up. It >> acted like a mailing list to those that wanted a list, and it offered >> a forum-esque web portal to the groups. I actually liked the way it >> worked, but I never found the equivalent in the wild, software-wise. >> > Still do. Problem is they have it locked down so badly that you > almost can't post via email any more. :( > _______________________________________________ > Chugalug mailing list > [hidden email] > http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug > ----- End message from [hidden email] ----- -- R. D. Flowers, Chattanooga, TN, USA http://chalice.us/poe/ _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
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Mailman mailing lists like this one have a web interface and archives.
I guess you don't get things broken down into/ stuffed into/ lost in someone else's twisty-passage category system that way, "though". No two people ( actually, no one person ) categorizes alike. ----- Message from [hidden email] --------- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:39:38 -0400 From: John Aldrich <[hidden email]> Reply-To: Chattanooga Unix Gnu Android Linux Users Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Chugalug] Open Source "personality flaw" (was Digest) To: [hidden email] > Quoting Dave Brockman <[hidden email]>: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 9/16/2013 12:41 PM, William Roush wrote: >>> Yeah, sorry, bit of a wrong suggestion, forums and mail lists can >>> be kind of "joined", I've seen a lot of places do it. >> >> Yahoo groups used to have a "combined" forum/list-serv set-up. It >> acted like a mailing list to those that wanted a list, and it offered >> a forum-esque web portal to the groups. I actually liked the way it >> worked, but I never found the equivalent in the wild, software-wise. >> > Still do. Problem is they have it locked down so badly that you > almost can't post via email any more. :( > _______________________________________________ > Chugalug mailing list > [hidden email] > http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug > ----- End message from [hidden email] ----- -- R. D. Flowers, Chattanooga, TN, USA http://chalice.us/poe/ _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2013, rdflowers wrote:
> Mailman mailing lists do list in their management option, a mail<> news > gateway. > > Does this not work. It probably does, I haven't run an NNTP server in almost 15 years. After the last few subpeonas about who was posting what from where thanks to the local law enforcement types, and looking at the traffic it was sucking compared to the local users, we outsourced it to an NNTP news service. So it would take an account on a NNTP service, or one of the free ones.. and the you open the floodgates to a whole new world. My only point is, NNTP kinda died to me many years ago. Hopefully the moron-aol-idiot contingent is all happy on Facebook and Torrenting warez and porn instead of using NNTP for it (which it sucks at). http://www.eternal-september.org/ looks like free text only usenet news... http://www.eternal-september.org/do_groupsearch.php looks like there are a lot of Linux-ish news groups still active. Hmm..I remember TIN as a newsreader.. What's the best CLI NNTP client out there? We may have to explore. _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
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Hash: SHA1 On 9/23/2013 8:07 PM, Mike Harrison wrote: > On Mon, 23 Sep 2013, rdflowers wrote: >> Mailman mailing lists do list in their management option, a >> mail<> news gateway. >> >> Does this not work. > > It probably does, I haven't run an NNTP server in almost 15 years. > After the last few subpeonas about who was posting what from where > thanks to the local law enforcement types, and looking at the > traffic it was sucking compared to the local users, we outsourced > it to an NNTP news service. So it would take an account on a NNTP > service, or one of the free ones.. and the you open the floodgates > to a whole new world. My only point is, NNTP kinda died to me many > years ago. Hopefully the moron-aol-idiot contingent is all happy on > Facebook and Torrenting warez and porn instead of using NNTP for it > (which it sucks at). > > http://www.eternal-september.org/ looks like free text only usenet > news... > > http://www.eternal-september.org/do_groupsearch.php > > looks like there are a lot of Linux-ish news groups still active. > > Hmm..I remember TIN as a newsreader.. What's the best CLI NNTP > client out there? We may have to explore. Stop it Mike, just stop it. I just had a Blue Wave Flashback (OS/2 version, thank you very much) trying to remember what I used for NNTP... :) Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSQN3jAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcdMBYIAIy/XZefqhNIhITtOPFOSYxo NnemlStBYn7ioyETtfN8vHRK1qgv59P7d3+JpKt8BDBc5XJ6hRA7TiW+rXD1KGJo ar+NlhjXfAEPtnclPNdro7dT8bpLwnlXSbX1Qk2OmSeNrOUGDj2rU8s/bwfPWS/Z DkvbEj4HfVobu/jYZ+ddf5lQXtDzwwwbU/i2IAlDxwoVBGsR13h2RU/cgKbev1LU su5WmK7Qv6vFIatfRRUf5VwBcav+ARH6UNzZjYBY+1A8XZwQcihle7nZEbVCbLAB DFSiFqpHXevVWtUOVPGk39lDoAWXt/dpyaXSSOFXw83jSGHkHEuu3YTspYTl3Io= =N3Bv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
Dave:
> Stop it Mike, just stop it. I just had a Blue Wave Flashback (OS/2 > version, thank you very much) trying to remember what I used for NNTP... Dave, It's a convergence of threads in different place. http://www.flutterby.com/archives/comments/18246.html about: http://www.redecho.org/2013/08/18/2219/ building "decentralized services" Which the original internet (1990's) had a lot of. The thought is a kinda about a small Linux-ish appliance that could provide a stable secure "darknet" without the internet. A conversation I had on the street today with a person on this list had me thinking that it would have been a great conversation to have had on a semi-trusted open forum on a darknet. Why? because this person's future employers, wives, etc.. probably don't need to know about the journey of exploration he is on, they need to deal with the result (and facade) at the point in his journey that they meet him on. UUCP, NNTP, BBS-style forums... all make sense in that world that might exist on store and forward networks, sneakernets, private meshes and occaisional VPNs. And if an employer has the tech-savvy to join that ecosystem and hunt you down: it might be the reason to really want to work for them, or avoid them like the plague. Question: Where on the internet (now) do you go to have reasonably private anonymous conversations with intelligent people about deeply personal subjects. Religion, Sex, Politics, Dark tech, etc ? without fear of public embarrasment, humiliation or arrest? Once upon a time it was the whole internet, IRC.. then newsgroups.. then private non-archived non-web posted mailing lists.. (there are a few still out here..), Facebook? Reddit? _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
I been thinking on this awhile. Even before the current nsa flareup. The old idea was revive fido with something akin to the 1bbs script that turns a linux box into a bbs. Lately I been taking a nostalgia tour into Gopher and doing research into what is being done with it lately. Found a blog about creating a gopher server with inetd(remember that?) and some php. Got to thinking why not use sshd instead? Or have public gophers with everything encrypted using public/private key gpg. Add an alt DNS top level domain to really screw with some folk. On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:25:17 -0400, Mike Harrison <[hidden email]> wrote: > Dave: >> Stop it Mike, just stop it. I just had a Blue Wave Flashback (OS/2 >> version, thank you very much) trying to remember what I used for NNTP... > > Dave, > > It's a convergence of threads in different place. > > http://www.flutterby.com/archives/comments/18246.html > > about: > > http://www.redecho.org/2013/08/18/2219/ > > building "decentralized services" > > Which the original internet (1990's) had a lot of. > > The thought is a kinda about a small Linux-ish appliance > that could provide a stable secure "darknet" without the internet. > A conversation I had on the street today with a person on this list > had me thinking that it would have been a great conversation to have had > on a semi-trusted open forum on a darknet. Why? because this person's > future employers, wives, etc.. probably don't need to know about the > journey of exploration he is on, they need to deal with the result (and > facade) at the point in his journey that they meet him on. > > UUCP, NNTP, BBS-style forums... all make sense in that world that might > exist on store and forward networks, sneakernets, private meshes and > occaisional VPNs. > > And if an employer has the tech-savvy to join that ecosystem and hunt > you down: it might be the reason to really want to work for them, or > avoid them like the plague. > > Question: Where on the internet (now) do you go to have reasonably > private anonymous conversations with intelligent people about deeply > personal subjects. Religion, Sex, Politics, Dark tech, etc ? > without fear of public embarrasment, humiliation or arrest? > > Once upon a time it was the whole internet, IRC.. then newsgroups.. then > private non-archived non-web posted mailing lists.. (there are a few > still out here..), Facebook? Reddit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chugalug mailing list > [hidden email] > http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
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Hash: SHA1 On 9/23/2013 9:25 PM, Mike Harrison wrote: > Dave: > Question: Where on the internet (now) do you go to have > reasonably private anonymous conversations with intelligent people > about deeply personal subjects. Religion, Sex, Politics, Dark tech, > etc ? without fear of public embarrasment, humiliation or arrest? > > Once upon a time it was the whole internet, IRC.. then newsgroups.. > then private non-archived non-web posted mailing lists.. (there are > a few still out here..), Facebook? Reddit? I disagree. If I wanted pseudoanonymity to discuss certain activities, I always used private communities. And/or alternative identities (not to be confused with a "handle"). What's even more interesting is to see the "ghost" profiles FB and LI have built off one of my alternative identities I created in the early 90s. Regards, dtb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSQbMkAAoJEMP+wtEOVbcd1RwH/iYC8o+0GCrTD/AeJOof2Z0h IclPRssVnFrLr/aA1sBgKOuNDvusgLER+YKoaN+6/bYXmAHhKMI/+M8w5fDCyrae eZcX6OemgAQQvHijnPisVp/PTzXAZ0ovh82qkMzIN6s+cJ0JpcdWkMDhLExNiTq1 lMWecdCi0rhRAhOwxpVaxZOGrcbL9M6B2VSribtqwQ6XdFFGqZSB9X44NQIALE2d 5o+KnBAIKwU/G4FwMmGeLMN6cOFh9cML31SzgBzGQYFBBV4r39gKQCsebFyuPmVl OMKVqh9Jtpc8D033a8mmtUtHwuY8msuXQ0yPt4YnbeK+k9ZYOpUsaC3ChOPtZgY= =E6+D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Chugalug mailing list [hidden email] http://chugalug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chugalug |
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